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WPC CPU Security Board

COCS

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Jag undrar lite hur det fungerar med det här CPU-kortet.

Jag saknar ett CPU-kort i ”Flintstones”. Om jag får tag på ett CPU-kort av den här typen (A-17651-50039), vad gör jag då?

Jo, jag måste naturligtvis ha EPROM till spelfunktionen, men det är ju lätt fixat.

Men sedan är det ngt annat med det här ”SECURITY” som verkar vara komplicerat, som jag inte har kläm på.

FRÅGA 1)
Kan jag ta ett CPU-kort från ett ToM (byta EPROM) och använda i Flintstones – eller är det ngt med det här ”Security” som stoppar det och vad gör man då?

FRÅGA 2)
Kan jag ta ett CPU-kort från ett annat Flintstones och stoppa rakt i utan problem?

Tack på förhand för svar!
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You can use your CPU from Theatre but you must have the security chip... for Flintstones and game ROM.

You can also use any other CPU from another Flintstones and it will work... as long as you have the game ROM and security chip...

Security chips can be bought at Bayareaamusements.com and cost $35 + shipping..


Hope this helps..


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Stephen

Thanks a lot for a quick and excellent answer!

So I need to buy this:
Security Chip - Flintstones

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Yes, that would be the one. Shipping should be reasonable and if you can keep the order under 500-600 sek, you should be able to avoid
customs taxes as well.


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Vet inte om detta kanske kan vara till hjälp.

WPC-Security (WPC-S): Starting with World Cup Soccer (3/94), a security PIC chip was added to the CPU board in all WPC-S games at location U22. This PIC (Programable Integrated Circuit) chip was game specific. CPU boards can not be swapped between different models of game without changing the security PIC chip (i.e. Corvette CPU board put into a Shadow game must have the Corvette PIC changed to a Shadow PIC chip). Each security PIC chip had a special serial number encoded into the chip. This number displays on the dot matrix screen for a few seconds as the game is turned on.
The number displayed shows what distributor the game was shipped to from the factory. This was done by Williams because of problems in Europe with distributors selling games outside of their sales territory. Anyone could turn a game on, write down the displayed serial number, and determine if the game was "bootlegged" from another distributor. However, this was defeated by adding a dot matrix power delay board. This small board didn't power the dot matrix display until the game was turned on for about 10 seconds. This meant the game was in attract mode (and the PIC number no longer displayed), before the dot matrix display was even turned on. This was embarrassing to Williams, as they spent much time and money to develop the security PIC chip system as a distributor territory protection device, yet the system was disabled by a simple modification. As a backup, there is probably a set of "secret" flipper button codes that will display the PIC number when the game is in attract mode (hence getting around the DMD power delay).

Unfortunately for us, the PIC chip makes CPU repair more difficult, as CPU boards can't be swapped between games without changing the PIC chip. To make things worse, new PIC chips were available from Williams for about $180 (retail) each. They were priced at this amount to deter distributors who are bootlegging from purchasing additional PIC chips. Now that Williams is out of the pinball business (as of Oct 25, 1999), there are two companies making replacement PIC chips. In both cases these new chips are a complete re-write of the original PIC code, so there are no copyright or legal issues. They work with any version of the game's CPU ROM code too. These new PIC chips are still game specific, but for the price, they are a bargain. Available from Dave Astill (no web page) and www.shiftedbit.com (called "Ewe-22").
Quit playing with the clock!


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Här finns ganska mycket som kanske kan vara av intresse. Länk
Play a real game, play pinball


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Mitt Securitychip var trasigt på mitt MM. Beställde ett chip som tar alla serienummer för MM.

Beställde härifrån, funkar utmärkt!
Ca 200skr.

http://www.shiftedbit.com/


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Tack för era svar!

Jag har undrat några ggr varför det ibland visas poäng för 4 st. spelare, fast jag vet att sist vi spelade var vi bara 3 spelare, men här är förklaringen:

"wpcmame" skrev:
Citera
Finns en lite rolig grej med chippet som du kan prova själv.
- Spela klart ett spel med 3 spelare.
- Stäng av spelet.
- Sätt på spelet igen.
- Nu visas poängen för 4 spelare.
- Spelare 4 poängen är serienumret + ett slags slumpmässigt värde som jag inte kommer ihåg.
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Carl Olof Christian Sjöberg
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Jag är stolt ägare till Vampire, Fireball, Nip-It & 2x4MBC :-D


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